anyone watch that show?
very touching when they say about the true life of the people..
donate the 5 calls 1.. anyone donated too??

2 calls, 2 sms...
but i think its unnecessary for artistes to risk their lives like sharon au
i really cringed thr'out the entire stunt
very horrible
i donate monthly to NKF via giro
if they continue with these dangerous stunts, i wun donate during the charity show anymore

wow.. power..
u got win any prize??
next week zeo tay performance looks dangerous also..

Just to share.

every year i have been dutifully donating to NKF until last year. Now i dont donate to them anymore cos i m not happy with the way they managed their funds. guess u must have read abt it in the newspaper recently.

As for me i have a true life experience to share. my father in law is down with kidney faillure and require dialysis but when we approached NKF they said that they cannot help us cos the family income is more than $3000. i tell u surely most families have income more than $3000 unless only 1 person in the family is working and is getting a low paying job. but my father in law bills is more than $3000 a mth which means what he earns is not even enough to pay the bills. he is already sick and yet has to worry financially. sometimes he says he rather die than to suffer.

So i WILL NOT DONATE TO NKF until they declare how they spend the money. i believe we people donate to the person who is seeking treatment and not to contribute for some $100+ million reserve nor to use for awareness, promotion, free clinics. i believe the promoting and free clinics shd be provided for by the ministry of health. that way we can save more than the 2,000 patients of NKF.

sorry to hear that...sometimes, you're not as scared of the disease as the financial drain...cant even survive...

was it $0.58 to beneficiaries for every dollar?
so paltry... <_<

i think the patients still need money...so i'll still cont to donate monthly...but for the glitzy affairs...no more...i told myself not to donate 2 years ago after some other dangerous stunt...but opps, i did it again...

i donate every year.. but is i call not i pay.. hehe.. when i started working i shall pay myself lorz..
some family only few hundred per month i think..

i think what pearljam say is correct and same time wrong.

Lets talk about the wrong part first,
imagine this, if everyone who has kidney failure and income above 3000 or above the bill, you think NKF can survive? i doubt. the 189 millions they have is enuf to last the organisation 3 yrs, on PRESENT patients! what if new one comes in? you think NKF can handle it? and every machine of NKF purchas cost 5 digits, the dialysis machine cost $35,000 per set , imagine the no. of sets? what if it spoils? what if it goes wrong? theres so many 'what ifs'? and it only has a 5 year life span, imagine they have 100 sets, in 5 yrs time, they have to pay 35,000,000 just to replace them? and also, theres another machine i forgot what, that also cost 5 digit, and can only last a year, you think that NKF being a non charitable organisation can handle such a blow? THEN, what happens to the patients? ask for donations then? isnt it a bit too late?

But also, what pearl jam said is very true,they should explain how they spend themoney and explaint o the public why they need so much reserves! otherwise its unconvincable.

one good eg i would like to quote here is s'pore reservres money,if i am notwrong, is the most in the whold world, i think it surpass USA. Why are wel still paying income tax? because should singapore sink into crisis, she is so many more times more vulnerable that larger countrie, just like NKF, should it hit and crisis,and has no reserves to fall back on, what she gonna do?

now imagine this scenario, presuming, alot of things goes wrong, and they spend 100million to correct the problem, theyhave 89million left, one thing, they have to advertise more, because ppl will be like 'is NKF trustable?' ' Should i donate to such a charity organisation?', NKF has to spend alot of its fund on this stuff, and in the end, NKF MAY solve the probelm, but how much could she have spent? how many donations will she lose per annum?

maybe everyone should think about that, its easy to find fault in others, but to understand others view isnt so easy

that is all.

saturos u are great.. i love you.. hahaha

Offering my 2 cents worth.

In my view, NKF could have done a lot better in handling this issue.IF they could have been more transparent at the start, perhaps a lot of the hulahoo could have been avoided.Ppl ask questions, give them the answers.Ppl ask some more, give them some more.Clear their doubts.Economy is bad.Everyone needs $.There would be no one to blame if one day everyone stops donating to NKF, but to other needy charities instead.For most s'poreans, they dun really care who they donate to, as long as they donate.It gives them a sense of well feeling, and perhaps to console them of any wrongdoping they may have done in the past.NKF is lucky , that they have a broad base of support.I agree that kidney patients suffer a lot.What they go thru is a really torturous time, physically, mentally and $lly.Dont forget, there are many other similar needy people of different disabilities who need help as well, but just lack the support and recognition.S'poreans managed their $ well, and NKF shld be thankful that support is still strong for them after the controversy.But one point though,it sure sent a wake up call to every potential donor or loyal donors who have been fully fledged in support to the NKF.
As what Satty said, the reserves are well reserved for rainy days.No prom about that, but i think what most ppl are concerned about is this:Why can't the $ ppl donate go more towards helping the current patients? Building up a strong and sound reserve is foremost correct, but here comes the snag many ppl are not satisfied about.Can the patients or needy kidney failure victims wait? If more is needed to cater to them at the expense of allocating more $ to the patients than to the reserves,why not? The Government has already set a good example here.By using the reserves to distribute Spore Shares in the wake of a poor, but slowly recovering economy.
$0.58/$1 goes to the patients, i read.Whatever the hag did the NKF did with their $, i think we will need an auditor to really know what is happening.But ,i think for a while and thought:The staff, the people who set up NKF truly loves and want to help the patients.Whether they would plant $189 million in their resserves or to use them in the present time, i believe they are doing in the need of all kidney patients.Whether is it $0.58 or $0.99 goes anywhere, i find solace in myself that the $ i donated will go in a long way towards helping kidney patients in a way ,or another in the years to come, be it present patients,or future unfortunate victims of the deadly, and hated diesease.
We can blast their handling ways, but let us not deny the hard work of the ground people and staff, the families suffering, as well as to crumple the hopes that the NKF people needd from the country's next of kin- fellow S'poreans, ourselves, our Nation.

anyway there is no end to this debate but i guess at the end of the day, the person that suffers most are the kidney patients so i guess there will be still be donors who pity these sufferers even though only 58% goes to them. in fact, i have heard (maybe true or maybe not since i do not have facts to justify, just hear say from friends) that the way nkf splurges within the dept on good food... etc is not justified. Just like a reader wrote in to request for more transparency, like the breakdown of the top 3 nkf key positions salary but do u think they will tell u...

And do u know that they have never subsidised 100% of the medical bills for anyone, even if these pp do not have any money. just like those in the show, already so pitiful but still they have to find means to pay a small amt for their treatment.

To me there are many charities in spore w/o much govt or pp support. so if i want to donate i will donate directly to the charity organisation. near my house there is a home for those pp who are mildly mentally retarded. i salute the home pp cos they are volunteers and only receive very low pay. sometimes not even enough to sustain but they enjoy their work. they are not entitled to govt support for the fact that these mildly retarded pp cannot contribute to the society :eek:
Sad but true. everyday they eat canned food and play with their soft toys. some of thse pp looks young but are already in their forties. some are abandoned by their family and left at the home. very poor thing.
sometimes u must look around then u will see a clearer and truer picture

Ya man. Sometimes we compare Ren Ci and NKF, and one cant help but feel Ren Ci's manner is more appropriate.

Aniwae, Dino Admin, yr topic salah...NKF...not NFK...ahahha..played too much photohunt.

waahahaha~ alamak~!! never notice.. paiseh.. NG NG .. take 1 .. :gossip:

i prefer to donate to Ren Ci more.

I believe that NKF needs to be supported.

But to the extent that they have reserves for 3 yrs while other charity groups are struggling to survive, then something shld be done to equalise the disparity in income for other charity groups. :doh:

anyway, Ren Ci touches my heart more, as I find them more sincere in what they are doing. The Ming Yi fa shi does the acts himself, why doesn't NKF chairman step out to do something also??

Lucky draws, winning condos/cars in charity shows are just absolutely unnecessary. Just give these to the other charities instead. :yourock:

precisely! ;)

just read thro satty comments since i have the time now then realise abt the spore reserve being more than that of theUSA. this is also a question mark? i was very surprised when this data was announced. everywhere singaporeans are going thro this tough patch. getting lower pay or no pay whereas the cost of living here keeps escalating. if spore reserve increases last year, this would only means that they collected more from us than was given back to the economy thro rebates, incentives, releasing of more projects to create jobs and kickstart the economy. sometimes it is very sad to know that we are living in a cynical world. everytime is so realistic here that make us self centred. i have many friends whom r struggling to survive every mth. some r jobless. at least i managed to help a friend find a job. he is now thinking of selling his flat cos he cannot afford to maintain it. he was so stressed that he couldnt sleep everynight. i think if this economy dont pick up or improves, pp will die of stress rather than of old age :(

wow.. haizz. sometimes is fate lorz..
2molo NKF dunno will break the record of last week anot hor..
the nkf they donate liao some go to other thing ar? not all go to nkf meh?