Title: Which NON-IW legion is your favourite?
Description: Post why...
Lord_of_Iron - February 9, 2005 05:34 PM (GMT)
What do you all think about their rules as well as fluff?
Lord_of_Iron - February 9, 2005 05:37 PM (GMT)
I love the immense subtlety of Alpha Legion, as they appear right next to you and stick a meltabomb on you face :unsure: :blink: :lol:
Having a whole army that infiltrates is sooo cool as the opponent has to set up their army without having a clue about where your's'll (sp?) be! B)
What does everyone else think?
blackcell8 - February 9, 2005 05:44 PM (GMT)
I like the Night Lords, I only didn't collect them because almost everyone here like IWs.
Jonru - February 9, 2005 05:48 PM (GMT)
Thousand Sons - 2 wounds and they look good as well.
IronWinds - February 9, 2005 06:41 PM (GMT)
I like NLs and AL, but when deciding only one I have to say the Emperor's Children. Lets get Fer-EAKY now :D . I only don't play them because I hate purple and pink, but I still have a rhino with subwoofers B) .
Lord_of_Iron - February 9, 2005 06:55 PM (GMT)
I'm going to start a seperate Chaos army completely based on infiltrating CC and minor infiltrating backup...
Alpha Legion or Night Lords?
What would you all suggest? Alpha Legion for cultists and cheaper infiltrate, or Night Lords for more Raptors? Which one??? :unsure:
blackcell8 - February 9, 2005 08:11 PM (GMT)
Night Lords, extra Fast Attack instead of 2 Hvy Support, extra unit of Raptors!
Ignavus - February 9, 2005 08:57 PM (GMT)
Nurgle = Death Guard for me as a Nurgle fan
NimDal - February 10, 2005 01:11 AM (GMT)
World Eaters!!!
Blood for the blood god!!
ork1973 - February 22, 2005 06:56 AM (GMT)
probably death guard for cult army (have 3000pt army that was retired a year ago as most of the figs are rogue trader 2nd edition antiques)word bearers as the colour (love deep reds)fluff and the chaplain 9 troops and any type of daemon!!!!!
Vigo - February 24, 2005 01:06 AM (GMT)
had a worldeaters army before IW , beautiful all that sick head mindless chainaxing
Blood 4 the blood god , skulls 4 the throne khorne!!!!!
Dreachon - March 5, 2005 06:38 PM (GMT)
DEfinetly the Death Guard, great fluff and the army bristles with conversion oppertunities.
heldane - March 7, 2005 01:18 AM (GMT)
Word Bearers.
The pictures in Horus Heresy Vol's 1+2 are simply amazing and the histories for them are stunning.
If i wasnt starting an IW army i'd be playing wordbearers instead.
Cheers
Dan
Skazar'van - March 14, 2005 01:25 AM (GMT)
I've played an Emperor Children army prior to IW, just because the old Noise marine figs where just so freaky... And they're probably the most colorfull of the legions...
@IronWinds
Mine where Electric purple & Black (same color than the Prowler car)
Looked a lot more better than the pink thing featured in the 'dex...
Hell, if the emperor forced me to wear pink, I'd go Chaos as well... :P
TheConqueror - March 21, 2005 07:56 PM (GMT)
word bearers, they are amasing i think, especialy with their "converting the imperials" stuff and so :D
BloodGod - April 6, 2005 01:57 PM (GMT)
Hmmm just read the name. BloodGod all the way.
TheConqueror - April 6, 2005 03:01 PM (GMT)
woa! no one likes the black legion :lol:
GriplionGremlin - April 7, 2005 01:44 PM (GMT)
i'd have to go 1000 sons.
i like the fluff and kind of hard to beat 2 wounds/per marine rapid fire as if standing still every turn, then add in a 18-24" melta shot (bolt of change w/warp focus) in each squad! talk about reach out and touch someone!
only thing that sucks is you cant give an asp champ the dem ability to boost wounds (only ind chars). that and no obies. bummer :(
grip :ph43r:
TheConqueror - April 7, 2005 01:54 PM (GMT)
well, i think that the bolt of change can take that part :P + that they can have 2 wound termies! :lol:
ferric-will - May 12, 2005 07:41 PM (GMT)
I`m gonna go with the world eaters.
Lots of chainaxes and bloodletters please!
_Warsmith_ - May 28, 2005 10:14 AM (GMT)
Alpha Legion. The destruction and rebellion they leave in their wake speaks for itself.
Moschaboy - May 29, 2005 03:42 AM (GMT)
world eaters. i like the bloodthirster and the khorne berzerkers
Iron Warrior w/ Servo Arm - May 29, 2005 05:10 PM (GMT)
Thousand Sons. My first army. :P
khorne berzerker - May 29, 2005 10:52 PM (GMT)
world eaters
kill ! maim ! burn !
kill ! maim ! burn !
kill ! maim ! burn !
Warsmith_Iron_Claw - June 20, 2005 12:06 AM (GMT)
Death Guard all the way! Just because of the ability to kill guys with nausea (nurgles rot). Also all the conversions and fluff.
:starwars
Forgebreaker - April 28, 2006 03:27 AM (GMT)
id have to say world eaters are my fave.
Mutt-Man! - April 28, 2006 06:14 AM (GMT)
My legion, should have put an 'other' choice. But in any regards, I dont have a fav among first founding.
Khargoth - May 10, 2006 02:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lord_of_Iron @ Feb 9 2005, 05:37 PM) |
| I love the immense subtlety of Alpha Legion, as they appear right next to you and stick a meltabomb on you face :unsure: :blink: :lol: |
"Hey, what's that on your face?"
"Aaargh, is it a spider? Get it off!"
Sorry for the late post, but I had to in a reference to RedvsBlue :lol:
Darthvegeta800 - August 8, 2006 02:20 PM (GMT)
Black Legion, though everyone here seems to hate them. :blink:
Probably for the usual reasons. <_<
BurnArt the Ravenbane - August 8, 2006 02:30 PM (GMT)
Black Legion, because of it's universality, devotion to war against the false emperor and because of Abaddon, all praise the Despoiler.
My third army (1st is ofcrs IW) would be Word Bearers, bcs of their religious background, they're lika a Satanic Legion or sthing :furious
exo - September 5, 2007 10:19 AM (GMT)
Death Guard. <3 papa Nurgle
blackcell8 - September 5, 2007 10:24 AM (GMT)
An extra reason to choose Night Lords like I did.
They survived the apocalypse of the new Codex.
Might start some Night Lords now, probably a small army, 1000 points or so...
Matt_the_Hobbit - September 6, 2007 07:30 AM (GMT)
I would say Night Lords and Thousand Sons.
Night Lords? Well have you read Lord of the Night? I just finished it for the second time last night and blimey! Excellent story, amazing fluff. They are truly brilliant and look uberly awesome. :demon:
Thousand Sons? Well who can say no to an army of indestructible robots marching inexorably towards the enemy ripping them to shreds with their bolters under the gaze of the greatest human Sorcerers to ever grace the galaxy? I just love them and have always wanted to do an army of them. :thumb:
Khargoth - September 6, 2007 08:17 AM (GMT)
After reading Lord of the Night, a Zho Sahaal-themed NL list is definately in the cards. It has been for some time, the Be'Lakor Daemon Prince I posted a pic of is going to be an ally Zho has picked up in his crusade to reclaim his Legion. New Possessed models, as they're totally un-IW, are also going to be painted up in NL colours. Essentially all my 'combat' units are going to be part of the Night Lords and will play as unofficial allies in the list.
Matt_the_Hobbit - September 6, 2007 08:51 AM (GMT)
Ooh be careful there. If your Night Lords are going to be Zso Sahaal's army then it would not have any Possessed, Daemon Princes etc as he rejected Chaos remember? :yes:
Khargoth - September 6, 2007 09:50 AM (GMT)
Not quite. He didn't really 'reject' Chaos and as such his followers would be permitted to be become Possessed, and I doubt he'd argue with a Daemon Prince considering his last encounter. His own opinion is that the Night Haunter's teachings are his way of life; if there was a Chaos God of Fear he'd worship it.
He 'rejected' Chaos in that they corrupted the Night Lords into being obsessed with inflicting fear, instead of using it as the ultimate weapon. As Sahaal is quoted to say; "Fear is the means, not the objective!"
As such he doesn't worship the Chaos Gods or generally associate with Daemons, however I believe he'd accept those that shared his views as followers. I believe he sees the daemonic as having their benefits; a Possessed or Daemon Prince would inspire a very 'direct' fear and could be used as 'blunt force' in a traditional Night Lords doctrine. Zho Sahaal uses a more primal fear, things such as darkness and the unknown.
Fluff-wise my Daemon Prince is going to be a leader of a relatively small force of Night Lords, renegade from the rest of their Legion for the same reasons as Zho Sahaal. Upon meeting him they swore allegiance. Sahaal has unofficial contact with my Warsmith Khargoth during the Medusa V campaign, Sahaal needed supplies, Khargoth needed fast-assault units. Since then Sahaal has moved onto whatever else is on his agenda, and the Daemon Prince (yet to be named) has been assigned to the 32nd Grand Company as an emmisary, as well as providing more than substantial close-assault assistance.
Darthvegeta800 - September 6, 2007 02:28 PM (GMT)
Love the ideas and concepts of you guys. ^_^
Lord of the Night is among my favourite WH40K novels. (and novels in general)
Matt_the_Hobbit - September 6, 2007 06:13 PM (GMT)
"Not quite. He didn't really 'reject' Chaos and as such his followers would be permitted to be become Possessed, and I doubt he'd argue with a Daemon Prince considering his last encounter. His own opinion is that the Night Haunter's teachings are his way of life; if there was a Chaos God of Fear he'd worship it.
He 'rejected' Chaos in that they corrupted the Night Lords into being obsessed with inflicting fear, instead of using it as the ultimate weapon. As Sahaal is quoted to say; "Fear is the means, not the objective!"
As such he doesn't worship the Chaos Gods or generally associate with Daemons, however I believe he'd accept those that shared his views as followers. I believe he sees the daemonic as having their benefits; a Possessed or Daemon Prince would inspire a very 'direct' fear and could be used as 'blunt force' in a traditional Night Lords doctrine. Zho Sahaal uses a more primal fear, things such as darkness and the unknown."
Yes I suppose so actually, you are right there, my bad. Although he does not worship the gods of Chaos in the same way as other Marines from the Word Bearers for example, he would have no compunction about using it as a tool, much as the Iron Warriors do and as he does in Lord of the Night to protect himself from Mita Ashyn.
"if there was a Chaos God of Fear he'd worship it."
Can you imagine what his Daemons and cult troops would be like? I'd love to do a DIY army dedicated to a god of fear or death, as there are many more than just the 5 commonly known Chaos Gods.
Khargoth - September 7, 2007 03:01 AM (GMT)
A god of Fear... hmm. Daemons, possibly something traditionally daemonic (Imagine a Bloodletter without the Khornate influences), Be'Lakor is a good example of a 'traditional' daemon.
Something I suggest trying is combining Bloodletters and Furies models with Tyranid claws and talons (maybe even some of the heads), and paint them solid black, with some very subtle hilights, glowing eyes, then a full coat of high-gloss. Personally I think that the daemonic manifestation of Fear would be a nearly-formless being of pure darkness. Possibly have the ability to change their shape to tap into the most primal fear responses in their victim's brain. Or perhaps make that ability exclusive to their higher-heirarchy beings, like the Greater Daemons.
Cult troops would probably closely resemble normal Chaos Marines, except with more intimidating decorations, like trophy racks on even their most lowly troopers, and Raptor-like snarling helmets. Would probably use psionic weapons like ultra-high frequency sound waves that distrupt thoughts and create a feeling of uneasiness. Possibly reflect as a -1 Leadership modifier to all units (friend or foe) within 12" that don't bear the Mark of Fear, and -2Ld to any unit in combat with a model that has said Mark.
I had another idea. The Icon of Fear, limit one per army. Once per battle, the Icon can release a concentrated pulse of psychic energy, specifically focussed on inspiring sheer terror. All enemy units on the table must take a Leadership test at -1Ld. If passed, the unit may act normally in their next turn, but may not Assault any unit bearing the Mark of Fear. Units that fail will fall back. Fearless units are immune as normal. Probably make it about 40-50pts considering how purely nasty that power could be when used correctly. Not an offensive ability, but could stop an assault army in it's tracks for an entire turn, and even severely disrupt a shooty army.
Wow, with that you could probably Anhihilate an entire army. Wait until all his units are below half strenght, then let it loose. Any unit that fails would fall back until they fled the table. Pretty appropriate for a God of Fear methinks, driving off an army with fear alone.
Matt_the_Hobbit - September 7, 2007 08:53 AM (GMT)
You know Khargoth, I think I now have the inspiration for my next army. ^_^
I like the Daemon idea too. Maybe have the god itself available as an incredibly powerful Daemon Prince using the Be'Lakor model and maybe this model as a base for a liutenant prophet type dude:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/st...&orignav=301116I think giving each unit the Mark of Slaanesh and Daemonic Visage would be a good way of representing the fear reducing their enemy's ability to fight and their own fearlessness quite well.
That Icon is very cool, but very cheap for what it would do. I would probably jsut keep to the Slaanesh standard in the old dex if it seems appropriate for a fear army.
I think i may have to put together a few prototype models for those Daemons and try them out with the Daemonette rules. What do you think?
:demon:
Oh I've just had a thought, what about these models for the Daemons?
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/st...7077&orignav=13And a new idea for the leader:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/st...&orignav=301116I could make scythes a theme of the army and have the god as patron of death itself as well as fear and death go well together.