Ive been reading up on these kits for a little bit, and was just keen to see if any of our 3SGE brethren would be keen to start up a group buy and try and track some of these bad boys down.



Anyway for those un-iniated in the external coil pack debate, it basically is a kit which relocates the stock 3SGE coils away from their usual place, thus eliminating the #1 cause of failure in said coils. HEAT.

The kit comes with special little adaptors that go into the end of the coils( as far as i know lol) and from that, the special Nology leads connect onto those adaptors, then run into the spark plug recesses and onto plugs themselves, just like Dizzy HT leads.

The kit also includes a bracket to mount the packs(again, as far as i know lol) which bolts onto the top of the engine cover.

IMO this would be a incredibly practical investment, especially for those turbo guys!

Post up with comments and thoughts if you like.

Regards,

Kyle

Interested:

Outlander
x-nick-x?
mapple

Im interested

I'm possibly in depending on the $ value!

Seem quite dear though perhaps get in touch with a supplier?

Just under $170USD here:
http://www.eautoworks.com/product-Nology-32542.htm

If someone has a set I could probably get another set replicated? With the brackets and the special fittings?

I'd be cheaper & easier to figure out a stylish way to put some vent holes in the engine cover if you're that concerned about heat IMO. Just change your plugs at the recommended intervals & you shouldn't have any problems.
If you're going to go to all that hassle of remote coils you'd at least want some sort of performance upgrade like these http://www.nagaidenshi.co.jp/IGNITION/mdirr_9912_9913.shtml but at @NZ$1732 I cant see to many people going down this path

Its really extra insurance against premature coil failure, especially in a worked engine thats generating more heat than normal, and the coils failing in service is a fairly common problem in 3SGE's.

At the moment the price as x-nick-x posted is just under $300 NZD. Im in the process of contacting a few suppliers to see if they can get a hold of the kits for a bit cheaper. Even if i bite the bullet and get the set myself and get nick to see if he can get some made up locally for anyone else interested in a cheaper alternative, although that is the last resort at the moment.

Il'l keep asking around and see what i can come up with.

Have one of those kits myself, welcome to have a look if you want.

Here's the stuff I posted up about it a while ago, http://z4.invisionfree.com/lexusaltezzaclu...wtopic=6774&hl=

Just a quick update, ive flicked off a few emails to various suppliers and Nology themselves to see if we could get a group buy going. Just waiting to hear back from any and all.

Another update, courtesy of x-nick-x!

Havent heard back from any of the suppliers i had emailed with the proposed group/wholesale buy. But Nick sure has! heres the skinny...

Trade price is $283.71 + GST per set. Retail is $365.54 + GST per set.

5 sets or more will cost @ $276.62 + GST per set. Ten sets or more would be $269.53 + GST per set.

So i guess the more people we can get in on the buy the cheaper it will be for us. Spread the word! its a pretty good investment for any altezza.

Post up if interested and il'l add your name to the list.

I could be keen.

So that comes with everything you need?

Count me in if its to be a month away atleast LOL!

Got a few things I need to take care of first :P

yeah im keen. . . the kit costs less than a new coil so if it saves one from failing its worth it

Could you just custom make a bracket, move the wiring loom, and use ordinary distributor to plug leads?

I'd mount them on the firewall by the chassis tag, then have the leads curve down and under the engine cover

The problem with that bud is your still missing the adapter pieces that allow the coil to connect to the HT leads, i suppose if those could be replicated then you could use whatever you wanted lead wise, although ATM this kit is probably the easiest most cost efficient method.

If you go down to you local Appco you could get all the parts to make your own set. When I worked there (Wairau Rd branch) I used to make HT Leads. Made a set of 7mm for my 20 valve 4AGE & lots of 8mm for mates Hondas. Also did lots of rotary & V8s but that was relatively easy in comparison. If someones got a set of nology's you can use to match up the parts to & they're available, you'd save yourselves a bit of coin. Just getting the time to make them would be the only issue.

One problem with normal leads, it will lose spark intensity without the capacitor right?

And the plugs that go into the coil arent hard to find.

Appco Wairau!!! With Graham and Dave?

Yeah with Graham. Dave wasn't there when I was there. Gerry & Brent were though & they're still there.

Not 100% sure what you mean by loosing intensity without a capacitor on normal leads.
I'd say you'd be loosing intensity by moving the source of the spark further away from the plug? That's why I assume they use coil over plug a lot these days.

(Another while I was at appco) I saw a few fried standard spark plugs that had been used in RB20DE & T's. Customer thought they'd save them selves a few dollar by not using platinum. The coil over plug must have a pretty intense spark to do that.

Ahh before Dave, must be when Leeson was there?

Wouldn't the normal leads (without a capacitor as the Nology HotWires have a capacitor in the leads) lose their spark intensity as the coil is outside the plastic cam cover and has to travel back into the cover and down into the plugs - if you were to make one up?

Nology overcame this problem by using the capacitor (which they claim that the spark comes out up to 300 times stronger too!)

Not sure if normal leads will cut it now that I'm thinking about it?

Oh I see, thats what those are. Seen them on lots Honda VTEC performance leads & always wondered what they were. Thought they were some kind of crazy earthing system.
Like you say maybe normal HT Leads wouldn't be upto it. But then you dont see those on any V8 HEI leads & they have to travel quite a distance from the dizzy to the plugs.

Na Leeson replaced me. I was there from '01-'05. Used to sell lots of trico wiper inserts & fan belts to your crowd :D

I'm keen too