Hey Guys,

I've recently been in contact with John from Autobend in Christchurch, regarding the possibility of them making up some rage tuned 3SGE headers and the supply of hi-flow cats.

The deal John has offered us is $219 incl GST for the univeral hi-Flow cat (replaces the main cat and you leave the pre-cat), and more importantly for 10-20 units of the rage tuned 3SGE headers it would be $331 incl GST per unit!! :woot: :D

All R&D has been done and Sample Jig has been Made, all that is required is the money and they'll get fabricated for real!

This is a great deal if you want some tuned headers for your Altezza, to get this price we would need at least 10 of us keen.

Autobend NZ: http://www.autobend.co.nz/rage/New%20Site/...nt/headers.html

Header pdf: [URL=http://www.autobend.co.nz/rage/New%20Site/web-content/header%20headngs%20images/toyota_4cyl.pdf]
http://www.autobend.co.nz/rage/New%20Site/...toyota_4cyl.pdf[/URL]

NOTE: Once we have at least 10 members who are confirmed (I'll edit this post with who's paid etc), the Group Buy will close 4 weeks from that date.

UPDATE: I'm asking for money now - first in first served. If we get the first 5 people paid then we'll get the first 5 sets of headers made and those 5 will be away laughing!! Will try and PM all those who are in the List below.

Those who are keen so far:
-MicaGreen PAID
-streamz
-zata40
-Onion
-SilentOne

People of possible keeness (you guys know you want to :lol: ):
-Nick
-E910
-Maccabro

Good price!!!

Mild steel headers? Any idea on grade of metal used?

I'm sure you can get 10 easy enough (eventually!)

Good Question,

I just found out that we did a group buy on them there wouldn't be a freight cost!! And yeah they are mild steel headers.

Cheers

I might even get one to stick onto TradeMe :P

Yeah I would be keen on a set if they are 4-2-1.

Just on a side note, is it worth wrapping headers or is it a waste of time?

Cheers.

it is worth wrapping headers if you use good quality wrap and apply it properly

Im keen if there 4-2-1
Any chance of a pic

Yeah i'm hell keen. Depending if I get my work ute back next week they could use my car if needed.

Hmmm something else I don't need to buy but want to at that price.
If some one could get them a nice set of say HKS or TRD headers to copy that would be even better

TRD


HKS

Keen.

Awesome Guys, five possibly six or seven keen already :D

I'll have a check about pictures and the grade steel, and will let you know if they are 4-1 or 4-2-1.

Onion - offer sounds good thanks dude, will ask about 'how' they'd use a car!!

Cheers

Keen.

Hey Guys,

Info I got from John this morning is that they will be 4-2-1 style, EWS Mild steel (standard exhaust steel) which is Electrically Welded.

Onion - They would use the car for three days, but most likely one day at a time a week apart to do the R&D.

Sorry, to clarify the no freight cost, it would be no cost to get them to Auckland as they have a depot here, so there would be no cost to pick up from that end in Christchurch, or here in Auckland. Otherwise there would be some freight from those depots.

No pics yet as they havn't been fabricated. Might be able to get some example pics of what they have done though.

Cheers,

I would be keen

Original Post has been edited with names of those who are keen :)

Not to hyjack your group buy or anything, but we are actually in the process of designing some stainless ones for the altezza. They will not be ready until the end of the year however. I am open to suggestions as to whether people prever 4-1 or 4-2-1 design.

Cheers,

AL
www.drivenperformance.co.nz

Thanks for the heads up,

How would the price/build quality compare? What are they based on? Particular reason for Stainless? Perhaps post a vote and topic on which design people prefer (looks like 4-2-1 from this small sample).

Cheers

Stainless is lighter and looks a lot better. IMHO its a better material for the job. Only reason autobend wont do them in stainles is the huge cost. It would be a 4-2-1 design, similar to the TRD setup but not a copy (we will have our engineer design our own).

It would be much better quality and about twice the price (still VERY cheap for a quality stainless set of extractors!).


For some reason i am not getting email notifications from this forum - so please dont count on me seeing replies etc - Best to email me! :-) AL

Just a quick question, are the headers the same for manual and tiptronics, I'm not sure where the cats are? Cheers

Cats in the tiptronic are located in the secondaries just after the primaries merge, but who needs them? I'd vote for a 4-2-1 system, 4-1 will give you top end but who drives there car around at 5000rpm+ daily?

me lol :P

LOL That explains the gearbox then :P

Is it true autos have two O2 senser's where as the manuals only have one? (too cold to go out to the garage to check right now) and if so, is rage making a auto header as well or do we have to get it modified. My vote goes for a 4-2-1 and the rage headers as I'm planning on wrapping the headers so stainless steel seems to be a waste of money as you won't see them.

Yea they have two one for each set of secondaries, I'm guessing the grouping will have to stay the same as each O2 sensor would control a pair of cylinders

Hi Guys,
The Group Buy is definitely going ahead!! Only need a couple more people keen!!

AL - Thanks for the information, I think to be honest most of the guys here would be wrapping their headers anyway so Stainless would be costly for essentially a small weight gain, and they also wouldn't last as long unless you HPC coated them and wrapped them, so again negating the 'show' effect of nice stainless headers.

slacker - I am finding out about whether the headers will be suitable for AT, though in the pdf link in my first post it does state MT and AT. Will let you know the outcome.

Leiden - Thanks for the info man!

These headers are a great price, thanks for the interest so far.

Excuse the crappyness but this work of art should explain everything :)

:D Nice Artwork, explains it perfectly!! Cheers dude

Cool, nice work. I'm definitely in if they work for AT.

Nice render mate! haha

Would the design be made with all three sensor holes as they can be
sealed easily with a bolt or such?

They should make them with all 3 O2 fittings welded in place and just block off the ones you dont need with bungs, that way the one design will work for both the AT & MT

Or alternatively just weld on the bungs without drilling a hole and the customer can just holesaw the ones needed, would go for option #1 for ease of installation though.

Hi guys,

I can confirm that they are designing them for both the auto and the manual. The auto will have a replacement section to replace the two cats on the headers. So yes the set will work for auto or manual and each set will have the 3 O2 sensor bolts, without any holes drilled.

They are going to be based on the TRD set, with a reduction in the diameter from 44mm to 41mm with is going to increase the low down power (according to John from Autobend the TRD ones only produce power from 5,000rpm onwards).

Cheers

stainless doesnt rust, so it would last longer than mild steel, but you will get a tinny sound from it where mild steel will give you a deeper sound. stainless tends to crack and mild steel tends to warp over time (flanges) so they both have their ups and downs. mild would be the cheaper option and just get it chromed to make them last. id be keen on a set, just wanna i see what they will look like first. 4 into 1 is how i like them, just like my cortina ones... makes it go nuts... yip a bit off the topic lol.

So does anyone know of a good quality exhaust wrap? Theres so many brands out there!

racepro seems allgood, m&h stuff is crap, it burns of easily.

i used dytech racing heatwrap, which is pretty good. But is a pain in the backside to get it off the distributors :angry:

bonus is you can get 1" wide through them which does tight bends much neater than 2" stuff, and is cheaper

Wicked, cheers for the replys :)

how much would this cost to get installed roughly?

Hi,

Just called Pitstop Manukau and the guy there gave me some prices - which seem a bit steep but I guess if you are getting someone else to do it, it would pay to give them a call to see if they can better these prices.

To install the headers they charge $70 per hour labour, he guesstimated 3-6 hours and a price of $250 - $300 to get them installed.

To install the hi flow cat he would charge $100. For a Hi-Flow cat plus replacement/fitting he would charge $400.

If anyone else knows some prices on install that are comparable or better please post em up.

Cheers

Bugger that!

NST
RRP = $90.00+gst
VIPs = $76.50+gst

They said no more then 2 hours MAX! Should be around the 1.0 - 1.5 hour mark at a guess.

That's without any of the studs breaking or nuts stripping though.

Not hard to do yourself though, I can lend a hand for a box of 'ronna :P

Thanks Nick!

Thought it was steep!! Cheers for the prices, was beginning to get a bit worried there!