Title: Pod Filter Vs Panel Filter ?
joony - September 22, 2009 02:46 AM (GMT)
Hi.
I am planning to put pod filter in my altezza. But I heard pod filter is not as good as panel filter due to hot air or something...
So which one do you recommend?
Also can you guys recommend me some good brands?
Thanks
roman - September 22, 2009 02:55 AM (GMT)
Long story short, it's not worth the trouble.
Neither are aftermarket panel filters.
E910 - September 22, 2009 02:55 AM (GMT)
Have you searched the forms on this? There's heaps of threads on the subject mate. You just need to look.
The basic answer is just get a drop in panel filter like K&N, Apexi or Greddy. Pods can be more hassle than they're worth & actually loose power over the factory air box.
http://www.tezzaworld.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4677
roman - September 22, 2009 03:00 AM (GMT)
Does anyone have any actual before and after dyno proof of drop in aftermarket filters acheiving anything?
When I get mine sorted I might dyno a few different setups.
Dyno with my last car showed that the difference between an apexi pod filter, and standard airbox with repco panel filter was 0.0hp.
4815162342 - September 22, 2009 03:01 AM (GMT)
I think the apexi poddy is one of the better pod filter setups out there, i have one and I havent noticed any peformance decrease over the stock box.
Makes a mean noise when revs are higher than around 4k
joony - September 22, 2009 03:18 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (4815162342 @ Sep 22 2009, 03:01 AM) |
I think the apexi poddy is one of the better pod filter setups out there, i have one and I havent noticed any peformance decrease over the stock box.
Makes a mean noise when revs are higher than around 4k |
So u got an apxi pod n do u think it's worth putting it on in terms of money spent? Cause I heard the apexi pod filter set is nearly $400 including installation. How much did u pay for it?
4815162342 - September 22, 2009 03:52 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| So u got an apxi pod n do u think it's worth putting it on in terms of money spent? Cause I heard the apexi pod filter set is nearly $400 including installation. How much did u pay for it? |
Think i paid around 150 for mine second hand but in mint condition.
I think its worth it if just for the sound factor :D
And btw they are easy to install yourself. You wont need to get someone to install it for you.
lexism - September 22, 2009 04:05 AM (GMT)
unless you can stop heat soak, there is no real gain*/point except an awesome sucking sound.
*nothing noticeable anyway
4815162342 - September 22, 2009 04:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| unless you can stop heat soak, there is no real gain*/point except an awesome sucking sound. |
Im planning to buy some air ducting such as:
http://airflo.co.nz/ducting.htmand ducting a few pipes from the grills up to the pod to help with air flow.
Will be interesting to see if it helps much
xnickx - September 22, 2009 05:03 AM (GMT)
mikeyde - October 6, 2009 07:34 AM (GMT)
Just thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in.
I bought my altezza a couple of weeks ago, I bought a K&N panel filter & replaced the denso spark plugs with NGK, I didn't notice much difference initially but went on holiday the following day for 5 days, travelled from Lower Hutt to Mount Maunganui and back, the altezza seemed to be running a lot better once I got back to Lower Hutt, noticeably more grunt in the lower revs.
Also, I had a K&N pod filter on my old celica, i cleaned it just before I traded it & put a cheapy on in it"s place and noticed a drop in power with an increase in fuel consumption. :skid:
johndoe1003 - October 6, 2009 09:04 AM (GMT)
pod filters arent really worth the trouble, un mounted they flop round, vibration can cause damage to your AFM, aswell as the fact they disturb the flow of air going to your AFM causing it to read wrong and cause erratic performance. and you wont get any extra power unless your gonna run a cold airbox and/or mount it somewhere for good airflow etc. nicks links probably say that same thing, didnt look. their purely wank factor. stick with a panel.
roman - October 6, 2009 07:50 PM (GMT)
Pod filters have their place, given the nature of their design and being universially applicable, they're great for when you're shoe horning a motor into a different car, and there isnt an airbox that will fit.
Or if you're say, making 3 times the factory amount of horsepower, the standard airbox and filter setup will most likely start to become a restriction, and fitting a larger airbox isnt practical in comparison to a large pod filter.
Some cars also have a fairly crappy air filter box design, in which case a pod filter may be better.
But altezza intake system from what I've seen is fairly decent, as you'd expect from a car making 100+hp per litre from factory.
xnickx - October 6, 2009 08:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (roman @ Oct 7 2009, 08:50 AM) |
Or if you're say, making 3 times the factory amount of horsepower, the standard airbox and filter setup will most likely start to become a restriction, and fitting a larger airbox isnt practical in comparison to a large pod filter.
But altezza intake system from what I've seen is fairly decent, as you'd expect from a car making 100+hp per litre from factory. |
Well put!
Agreed to all above.
Only if your engine is actually needing the extra air (SC or turbo) only then would I recommend a Pod setup over the stock air box.
Of course, if you can keep the stock air box with the SC/Turbo setup, I'm sure it would run better too (seeing that the Toms 280T turbo motor still used the stock air box too)
So unless your seeing 250HP+ @ the rear wheels, I would say a stock air box with a decent panel filter is more then enough :D