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Title: Apexi Power Fc Differences


Major Clod - October 16, 2009 12:44 AM (GMT)
Hi all,

Apologies if this has been answered before, I've spent the last few days searching and contacted a few retailers without too many solid responses.

Apparently there are 4 versions floating around:

414-AT006 Toyota - Altezza - SXE10 98/10-01/4 3S-GE
414-AT010 Toyota - Altezza - SXE10 98/10-01/4 3S-GE (Suitable for Apexi Turbo)

414-AT013 Toyota - Altezza - SXE10 01/5 3S-GE
414-AT014 Toyota - Altezza - SXE10 01/5 3S-GE (Suitable for Apexi Turbo)

Now I understand the difference between the two model years, thats not a problem.

What I want to know is what does "Suitable for Apexi Turbo" actually mean.

- Does it provide additional features to suit forced induction?
- Does it require additional sensors?
- Can I run a NA motor perfectly on a "turbo PFC"
- Can I run Forced Induction on a "non turbo PFC"

And finally, if any of you are running PFC's, which part number do you have?


I'm looking at a PFC for the 3SGE in my RA23 Celica. Obviously I'm running a different exhaust to the SXE10 and I'm running an Apexi Power Intake as I have no room for the SXE10 Airbox. I want to keep my motor NA for the time being, but don't want to rule out Forced Induction in the future. I'd rather get one PFC now and not have to upgrade again, and the car is completely wired up with the SXE10 ECU/Loom so I'd much rather go PFC than completely standalone ECU.

Cheers,

Ryan

Distrb - October 16, 2009 12:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Major Clod @ Oct 16 2009, 12:44 PM)
1 Does it provide additional features to suit forced induction?
2 Does it require additional sensors?
3 Can I run a NA motor perfectly on a "turbo PFC"
4 Can I run Forced Induction on a "non turbo PFC"

1&2 Yes, it requires the additional MAP sensor & harness to enable it to read manifold pressure when running boost.

3 - Yes

4 - yes, that is what i do. just have to graft in a bigger MAF sensor that can read higher than stock one can. VG30 ones are apparently the ones to use, (i use something different) and have the wiring diagrams to suit.

I run 414-AT006 Toyota - Altezza - SXE10 98/10-01/4 3S-GE (commonly reffered to L-Jetro version)

Major Clod - October 16, 2009 02:46 AM (GMT)
Excellent, thanks for that info!

So would that mean the turbo version can work with the existing MAF sensor when running Naturally Aspirated and require the MAP Sensor when Forced Induction? Or would it simply not use the MAF at all and require a MAP Sensor regardless of NA or FI?

Would that then mean I can switch to a MAP sensor instead of MAF when running NA if I needed to?

Really appreciate the help.

Distrb - October 17, 2009 10:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Major Clod @ Oct 16 2009, 02:46 PM)
Excellent, thanks for that info!

So would that mean the turbo version can work with the existing MAF sensor when running Naturally Aspirated and require the MAP Sensor when Forced Induction?  Or would it simply not use the MAF at all and require a MAP Sensor regardless of NA or FI? 

Would that then mean I can switch to a MAP sensor instead of MAF when running NA if I needed to?

Really appreciate the help.

in an n/a setup with that ecu, you could either:

- run it with the map sensor unit plugged in
- run it without the map sensor unit plugged in, just simply using the stock MAF sensor

and have it tuned to suit.




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