Title: Rb25det In An Altezza?
ifusion - October 20, 2009 06:40 AM (GMT)
Just as a thought, what you guys think? They are alot easier to get than 1JZGTE's and parts are more available...
Sl1d3wayzzz - October 20, 2009 06:42 AM (GMT)
ifusion - October 20, 2009 06:43 AM (GMT)
I mean it would be the best of both worlds, a awesome sounding and wicked performance motor, with the looks, class and quality of toyota.
Sl1d3wayzzz - October 20, 2009 06:45 AM (GMT)
I totally agree, For me it was eather an altezza or an rb25 180SX but i would have needed to save for a weeeee bit longer if i wanted that. It would be cool to see, I like that rota altezza aswell. its cool.
E910 - October 20, 2009 10:05 AM (GMT)
It's just wrong. Like the guys who put SR20DET into AE86, sacrilege!! :angry:
Why would you bother with a RB25 when you could drop a 2JZ in with much less hassle??
yojimbo - October 20, 2009 10:37 AM (GMT)
Besides the fact they are a heap pf shit.
Turbo is on the wrong side.
How much different could the purchase price be? It isn't worth a $1000 discount for all the extra hassle.
ifusion - October 20, 2009 10:57 AM (GMT)
I duno, i just love the RB's. I wouldn't call them shit dude, they are a pretty solid motor.
yojimbo - October 20, 2009 11:36 AM (GMT)
Rb25 is a boat anchor.
Rwd Rb26 would be cool if you could garentee no oilsurge problems.
don't do a 2j, all that reliabillity and torque can get boring.
riderzx10r - October 20, 2009 11:39 AM (GMT)
I wouldn't say they are shit but I would say they have a few down falls well for big power any way. the bottom end is now way near as strong as a 2jzgte. they also have oil cooling issues which can lead to short motor life. saying this there is so much after market stuff out there for them that all there issues can be fixed with enough $
a 2JZgte is good for 500hp+ at the wheels all day long with no internal modification. I don't think you would get that out of an RB for long before you are up for a rebuild.......
DR-JEKL - October 20, 2009 12:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (yojimbo @ Oct 20 2009, 11:36 PM) |
| don't do a 2j, all that reliabillity and torque can get boring. |
Sums it up in one sentence perfectly! :D
If you wish to retain some form of resale value drop in a 1JZ or 2JZ.
If you are an unethical sadist drop in the RB25 :P
ifusion - October 20, 2009 08:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| If you are an unethical sadist drop in the RB25 |
LOL love the Toyota prejudice...
Distrb - October 20, 2009 09:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ifusion @ Oct 20 2009, 06:40 PM) |
| Just as a thought, what you guys think? They are alot easier to get than 1JZGTE's and parts are more available... |
Do you want to re-invent the wheel with a conversion like this? can you do the conversion yourself? or will you need to pay someone to do it for you?
Sure an Rb25 might not be a bad motor. but ask yourself why you are doing this in the first place? do you want to be an innovater? do you want to be completely unique? Do you just want assloads of power and torque?
If you ask me, the 1jz/2jz conversion makes the most sense and is likely to be more cost effective. But i'm approaching it from the point of wanting some good torque and power at a reliable level for minimal cost.
what do you want out of it?
ifusion - October 20, 2009 09:38 PM (GMT)
My mate would be doing it, hes done heaps of conversions mostly rb's.
Why would i do it? Well it would be unique and also it would have one of my favorite motors in an awsome car.
Distrb - October 20, 2009 09:51 PM (GMT)
So you're pretty much wanting to create a "dream car"
if its a dream of yours why do you care what anyone else thinks? if its what you ultimately want, then just do it. It's going to be hard and cost quite a bit, but any conversion will.
Sure you'll get the knockers for doing it and people screaming sacrilege for not using a toyota motor, but you're not doing it for them.
lexism - October 20, 2009 10:23 PM (GMT)
rb26 has been done ;)

ifusion - October 20, 2009 10:28 PM (GMT)
Awsome, any info on that RB26 conversion by any chance lexism?
caveman - October 20, 2009 11:12 PM (GMT)
sheesh... get one extra large shoe horn......actually look like it's not too bad a fit
is that sand in the tray in the first pic..... now why would you need sand ?.......
yojimbo - October 20, 2009 11:47 PM (GMT)
Lots of wrong there in terms of engine transplants.
Everything is on the wrong side for a reliable setup.
Putting fuel, electrics, battery and exhaust down the same side of the car is asking for trouble.
Besides the fact there is no relief for an exhaust system down that side of the car anyway.
If you think the rb25 is your favourite engine, you havent owned a 1j.
xnickx - October 21, 2009 12:00 AM (GMT)
Matt keep in mind the 3SGE Altezza have everything on the same side as the RBs.
yojimbo - October 21, 2009 01:33 AM (GMT)
Would be an intersting exercise getting a decent sized exhaust down that side of the car.
lexism - October 21, 2009 01:42 AM (GMT)
exhausts are for chumps!!! who needs em if you're after massive power :P
E910 - October 21, 2009 02:12 AM (GMT)
There's plenty of room on/under an Altezza yojimbo
ifusion - October 21, 2009 02:52 AM (GMT)
Yea looks like plenty of room.
riderzx10r - October 21, 2009 04:40 AM (GMT)
there is some serious kinks in that bad boy. but I say what ever floats your boat if you are that keen just do it. anything is possable with enough cash!!!
xnickx - October 21, 2009 04:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (riderzx10r @ Oct 21 2009, 05:40 PM) |
| anything is possable with enough cash!!! |
X2.
Not a fan of the idea myself but it's a free world.
Have seen a 1JZGTE in an R32 4 Door GTST so hey! ( I did LOL though hehe)
yojimbo - October 21, 2009 04:47 AM (GMT)
You're right I have no idea.
I didnt scratch build an exhaust system for my car just last tuesday.
The cat (slimline metalcat with the heat sheild ripped off) is (almost) resting on the floor pan, there is less space on the passenger side.
Id only have 50mm ground clearance if it had to go down the left.
xnickx - October 21, 2009 04:51 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (yojimbo @ Oct 21 2009, 05:47 PM) |
| I didnt scratch build an exhaust system for my car just last tuesday. |
Had a peep under an SXE10 Altezza recently Matt :lol: ?
I would need to confirm but I think the SXE10 Altezza have that groove on the other side compared to the GXE10 and JCE10 chassis.
Notice how the factory dump pipe goes from the LH side into the RH side here:

Where the GXE10 goes the other way?
yojimbo - October 21, 2009 05:09 AM (GMT)
Yeah they'd both end up following the massive hole that is the rear half of the trans tunnel once you get around the gearbox mount. But it is very tight to fit any decent pipe alongside a big ( r154 / rb25) gearbox.
This is a dumb argument anyway. Why put a weak motor in when a strong one is easier. May as well put in a 13b.
lexism - October 21, 2009 05:33 AM (GMT)
Back on topic, rb's may be cheap, but to get it to work in a tezza is quite alot of work, end of the day a 1/2j would be cheaper in the long run!
I love my rb's too (I used to own two r34's) but this may not be a good idea for this case.
koz - October 25, 2009 06:48 AM (GMT)
How much does the RB25 weigh?
If I were to consider a non-toyota swap I'd go for an EG33 at 120kg, specs are very close to the 1uz and about 50 kg lighter.
Good luck.
yojimbo - October 25, 2009 07:24 AM (GMT)
For a non toyota swap there is only one worthy contender.
Any kind of Judd v8.
otherwise may as well stay toyota.